The crypto world is buzzing with news that could reshape the landscape of decentralized media and communities. Word on the digital street is that the masterminds behind Bankless, the influential cryptocurrency media platform, are contemplating a significant move: separating the Bankless brand from its decentralized autonomous organization (DAO) counterpart, BanklessDAO. This potential split comes at a crucial time, amidst ongoing discussions and, let’s be honest, some heated debates surrounding both Bankless and BanklessDAO. So, what’s fueling this potential divorce, and what does it mean for the future of these crypto powerhouses?
Why the Potential Breakup? The Arbitrum Grant Proposal Controversy
According to sources close to the situation, Bankless co-founders David Hoffman and Ryan Sean Adams are planning to put forth a governance proposal to BanklessDAO. The core of this proposal? To officially separate the two entities. This isn’t just a whisper in the wind; Hoffman and Adams even took to X (formerly Twitter) on November 26th to publicly announce their intentions, including a plan to burn all of their BanklessDAO (BANK) tokens as a sign of their commitment to this separation. You can check out David Hoffman’s tweet below:
1/ Bankless & BanklessDAO separation proposal coming to the DAO.
– Separate the brands
– Burn our BANKWhy?
BanklessDAO submitted a grant proposal to Arbitrum that created community controversy. It was a good proposal but it was perceived poorly by the community, and in retrospect, we understand why.
— David Hoffman – Onchain Strategy (@TrustlessState) November 26, 2023
The driving force behind this drastic consideration is the community backlash following BanklessDAO’s application for a substantial grant from Arbitrum, a Layer-2 scaling solution for Ethereum. On November 20th, BanklessDAO submitted a proposal requesting a whopping 1.82 million Arbitrum (ARB) tokens. At the time of writing, this amount translates to roughly $1.8 million! This ambitious request immediately raised eyebrows and ignited debate within the crypto community.
David Hoffman himself articulated the core concern:
“The concern is that BanklessDAO would not be able to make such ambitious proposals without leveraging the weight of the Bankless brand, which they did not produce, is not theirs, and ought not to benefit from.”
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Community Backlash and the Grant Proposal
The BanklessDAO community didn’t hold back in their critique. Many DAO members voiced concerns that the proposal sought nearly two million ARB tokens primarily for content creation, but lacked concrete details on how these funds would be utilized and what specific outcomes would be achieved. The scale of the request, coupled with perceived ambiguity, fueled skepticism and questions about the proposal’s justification.
In response to this wave of criticism, BanklessDAO demonstrated agility and a willingness to listen. They swiftly committed to revising their proposal, aiming to reduce the grant duration from a year to a more concise three-month period. Furthermore, they pledged to incorporate clear Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) and milestones to provide greater transparency and accountability regarding the use of funds and expected deliverables.

Escalation and Accusations: Social Media Enters the Fray
The debate surrounding the grant proposal quickly spilled over and intensified on social media platforms. The online discourse became quite heated, with various commentators weighing in on the situation.
Pseudonymous Delegate Cash CEO, Foobar, for instance, accused Bankless founders of “legitimacy grifting.” This accusation suggests a perception that the founders were attempting to distance themselves from BanklessDAO in a way that appeared disingenuous, given the inherent connection between the two entities.
Adding another layer to the controversy, some Bitcoin (BTC) proponents, like Pledditor, brought up past criticisms against Bankless founders. Pledditor referenced instances where Hoffman and Adams promoted projects like Nexo, suggesting hypocrisy in their stance. They pointed out that while the founders clarified receiving $31,000 for promoting Nexo (not $250,000 as initially speculated), the underlying criticism of promoting financial products remained.
Bankless Founders Respond: Defending Advertising and Mission
Ryan Sean Adams, co-founder of Bankless, directly addressed the criticism leveled against him and Hoffman. He defended the practice of running advertisements, arguing that labeling creators as “grifters” for doing so is essentially advocating for consuming content without supporting its creators. He emphasized that paid subscriptions have always been the financial backbone that fuels Bankless’s mission to promote and educate about bankless financial systems. You can see his response here:
Some ppl mad at me & David for running ads on Bankless.
They call us grifters.
Calling creators grifters for running ads is essentially saying you want to consume products for free.
Paid subscribers have always funded the mission of Bankless. Ads are extra. We're building a media… https://twitter.com/RyanSAdams/status/1728811211855483277
— RYAN SΞAN ADAMS – rsa.eth 🦇🔊 (@RyanSAdams) November 26, 2023
Bankless and BanklessDAO: A Brief History
To understand the current situation, it’s helpful to look back at the origins of Bankless and BanklessDAO:
- Bankless (2019): Founded as a crypto media company with a clear mission: to champion the adoption and understanding of bankless money systems and decentralized finance.
- BanklessDAO (May 2021): Launched as a decentralized community organically growing from the Bankless media platform. Its purpose was to coordinate and expand the reach of bankless media and education, powered by the BANK token.
- Bankless Ventures (April 2023): Bankless founders announced the launch of a $35 million venture capital fund focused on investing in early-stage Web3 companies, further expanding their influence in the crypto space.
What Does the Future Hold?
The potential separation of Bankless and BanklessDAO raises several important questions:
- Brand Identity: How will each entity establish and maintain its brand identity independently? Will the separation clarify their roles and missions, or create confusion?
- Community Dynamics: What will be the impact on the communities surrounding both Bankless and BanklessDAO? Will there be a division of community members, or will they remain interconnected?
- Governance and Operations: How will BanklessDAO operate independently if the separation occurs? What changes in governance structures and operational processes might be necessary?
- The Future of BANK Token: With the founders burning their tokens, what will be the long-term implications for the BANK token and the BanklessDAO ecosystem?
The coming governance proposal and the community’s response will be critical in determining the future trajectory of both Bankless and BanklessDAO. This situation serves as a fascinating case study in the evolving dynamics between crypto media platforms, DAOs, and their communities. It highlights the complexities of brand association, community governance, and the ever-present scrutiny within the decentralized space. As the crypto world watches closely, the decisions made by Bankless founders and the BanklessDAO community will undoubtedly have lasting implications for the broader ecosystem.
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